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Old 2016-03-21, 1:04pm
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I bought some boro çshorts a good while back. None of them were labeled, so I melted the end to see if all of the dark ones were actually black or not. I have one rod that was a dark bluish color but when I melted it I got some iridescent shine on the rods in the vicinity of where I melted, but the melted part went light. I don't know what it is so I can't look it up, but does anyone have any idea what it is or else what I can do with it to make it do something. I tried reduction, I tried Heating and Cooling, and I am not doing something right I guess.
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Old 2016-03-21, 1:05pm
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Old 2016-03-21, 1:52pm
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My guess is Northstar Blue Caramel.
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Old 2016-03-21, 1:54pm
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Thank you, off to look it up.
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You're welcome Eileen. If that's what it is, it's not one of my favorites. I did make some quick disks and leaves with Butterscotch frit partially melted in and they were OK. Working it on the surface for any length of time and all I get is dull yuck.
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Old 2016-03-21, 2:03pm
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So far I have only found info on experimental Morado, and that doesn't look the same, but I am still looking.
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Old 2016-03-21, 2:17pm
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You created a haze on the glass, you need to get this glass really hot to burn off the haze and then encase it, to get the complete effect. It does look like NS blue carmel - but it also could be blue moon.
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Hmmm, I I'll try again, though I thought it was pretty darn hot! Thank you!
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It's not just heat. It's flame chemistry as well. Try a hot neutral flame, or even oxidizing. I'm going to say it's Blue Caramel. The reduction is tan, and on Blue Moon the reduction usually looks blue or green.
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Thank you, I'm getting ready to go out & give it a shot.

I have another question. I played around with a different short, and trailed it over some clear, then added some clear over top of some of the color too. Where you see through the clear to the bottom side is really pretty, but the outside, both before and after adding the outer clear is not. Any thoughts as to what I did wrong?
I have a picture (please excuse the sad attempt at a heart) but it is on my phone, so I need to post it separately, brb.
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This is the test of the other color. Is it also my flame and heat?

PS. This is not annealed, not sure if that makes a difference or not.
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The outside is reduced. That's why it's that color. More oxygen and more heat.

Those colors really don't change much when annealed.
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You created a haze on the glass, you need to get this glass really hot to burn off the haze and then encase it, to get the complete effect. It does look like NS blue carmel - but it also could be blue moon.
What does creating a haze mean? In reference to the photo, is the haze the whitish/cream color at the tip?
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I haven't been able to light up & try the extra heat, but I used my leponits nippers to chip a bit of the white off, and it is dark inside. It reminded me of the candy shell on M&M candy.
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What does creating a haze mean? In reference to the photo, is the haze the whitish/cream color at the tip?
yes it is the whitish/cream color at the tip in that picture. that color glass and other like it have silver and other metals in it that if worked in a neutral to oxidizing flame will stay blue but when hit with a reducing flame the metals come to the surface and form a haze layer on the glass.
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Are you running an oxycon? You might not be able to achieve a hot and oxidizing flame that way.
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There is a lot of silver in that glass, so not only do you need to get it screaming hot you need plenty of oxygen too. Your flame should be hissing quite loudly. I agree with Larry, if you are on an oxy con you may not be able to get it hot enought or get your flame oxidizing enough.
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I just recently (a few days ago) was gifted my husband's oxygen tank when he got rid of some equipment, so I will try again with the oxygen turned up, and with the tanked and see how those changes work, thanks!
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I was wondering how this worked out. Would love to see
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I got caught up in some Beads of Courage projects and haven't had time to try, but hopefully this week.
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