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View Poll Results: How bad was your worst burn?
I've had up to 1st degree burns-Pink to red skin, mild swelling, pain, 3-5 days to heal 151 27.55%
I've had Up to 2nd degree burns-Bright skin, moderate swelling, pain, blisters, 2-6 weeks to heal 187 34.12%
Up to 3rd degree-white/brown/yellow/black skin,severe swelling, little/no pain, weeks to heal. 149 27.19%
Up to 4th degree-black leathery skin, no pain/swelling, months to heal. 20 3.65%
I've had no burns. I'm way too careful (or have safety gear) 58 10.58%
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Old 2008-07-12, 1:08am
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Boy, after reading the horrors of that other thread, I need to hear that there are some lampworkers out there who don't have these battle scars.

Oops, 2nd degree option was supposed to say bright RED skin.
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Old 2008-07-12, 4:52am
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I hate to say this. You know the old saying 'tempting fate.' In my lampworking I have had only 1st degree burns so far. I assumed that is what you were asking so that is what I voted.

BUT I have had some rather severe burns. The worst was my 1st or 2nd year in college just before finals week. We were having a formal dinner with parents. There were candles on the buffet table and we had paper plates and napkins. My plate caught fire from a candle and I did not realize it until the flames were coming up over the sides of the plate. 3rd degree burns on two fingers, 2nd degree burns on 1. I spent all that night with my hand in a glass of ice water and had a final the next day!
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Old 2008-07-12, 5:24am
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I have been burned by shocky glass in my face, the hot glass stuck to my skin .... luckily I had water on my bench and quenched it or else I think it would have been pretty bad
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I've had little bits of shocky glass hit me. Oh & I burnt my thumb trying to press "not hot enough" glass harder with my tapley tongs (I'm an idiot)--but all that was just 1st degree stuff.
My REALLY bad burns were all done OFF the torch....

Steam-Scalding myself pulling a saran-wrapped caserole out of my mom's microwave when I was taking care of my dad--ended up having the back of my hand "peeled" @ the ER & getting a tetnus shot for that one--NEVER, EVER put something covered with plastic wrap in the microwave--EVER!!! (omg, weeks to heal & thank heavens it was my left hand it hit!)

Ran my right hand across a restraunt kitchen grill (200 on one side, 450 on the other, ran cold to hot!) while cleaning it--slid right off the cleaning screen & cloth when the handle snapped on the scrubby! Had some serious pressure going--so fried my hand nice...that was fun...had no fingerprints or handprint for about a year afterwards (hand healed up in about a week & a half--I burnt all the callous of my hand--I was lucky I had thick skin on my right hand @ that point!) Took it off in a "print" pattern!

*Loads* of freckles up & down my arms from the same restraunt--used to fry-cook seafood & get splashed by the fry-o-lators. 450 degree/475 degree hot lard/veg shortning melt splashing/bubbling will do that to you--every little "splash" leaves a burn, most of the burns leave a "freckle" I have nicely freckled arms now (worked there off & on for 10+/- years while I was in HS/College/Etc.) This is probably why I'm 99% immune to shocking glass when it hits me--the pain stops after a second, so I forget I've been "hit" (sorta like the hot fat!)

I cannot even count the times I've burnt myself with the oven--2nd degree. Usually sticking myself to the oven rack, sometimes to the top of the oven because I'm grabbing stuff & misjudge the distance (I'm not terribly careful with my home oven...too much time in bigger kitchens I think?)
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I have a few little spots on my fore arms after 3 years....like mesquito bites when the flying shocky glass hits. maybe one "almost" first degree butn on my arm when I put my arm down on a rod that had'nt cooled fully. Now I'm worried......
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Well I just plain ol' stuck my hand right in the flame!! I have NO IDEA what I was trying to do but it sure hurt!! Burned the skin near the webbing between thumb and forefinger. Probably should have gone to the hospital but it finally healed. For some weird reason it didn't scar badly. I have had lesser burns that have left worse marks
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My arm is littered with "freckles" from popping glass. My only truly serious burn involved a motorcycle muffler. When I burned it, it turned pale white and puffy but didn't hurt at all. It was about the size of my whole hand on my mid-calf. I didn't realize how bad it was until I took a shower the next morning and the whole thing slipped off in the shower. That was spooky! By the time I went to the doctor (days later) he said I probably should have had a skin graft. It never did hurt except for some itching way deep underneath that you couldn't have scratched cause you could never reach it. It took months to heal and the area still feels no pain (15 years later). Doesn't grow hair, either, but the scar is a lot less visible than it used to be.
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Old 2008-07-12, 7:22am
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i have only had minor injuries... i stringer buried in my hand for a week and I did not even know until it tried to work its way out..lol and some minor 2ond degree burns with blistering, but they healed faster than 2 weeks... (i grabbed the hemostat trying to put a key in it... it was HOT!) but this was a little burn, just on my pinky and ring finger somehow, and in the shape of the hemostat!
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ya know...you play with fire.... you will eventually get burned! You cant possibly do this and not get burned once over the years! : ) I have been pretty fortunate and not gotten severly ..like hospital ...burned. I view my little scars as beauty marks : ) A testament to my art hehe. When I do burn myself I have a new found respect for the flame for awhile : )

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After lampworking for over a year, I've experienced only the occasional tiny specks of flying glass hitting the inside of my left arm and occasionally touching too closely to the recently joined ends of shorts.

I've probably jinxed myself now.

My most significant lampworking injury has been a cut on a finger when I twisted a cracked bead off a mandrel.
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My arm is littered with "freckles" from popping glass. My only truly serious burn involved a motorcycle muffler. When I burned it, it turned pale white and puffy but didn't hurt at all. It was about the size of my whole hand on my mid-calf. I didn't realize how bad it was until I took a shower the next morning and the whole thing slipped off in the shower. That was spooky! By the time I went to the doctor (days later) he said I probably should have had a skin graft. It never did hurt except for some itching way deep underneath that you couldn't have scratched cause you could never reach it. It took months to heal and the area still feels no pain (15 years later). Doesn't grow hair, either, but the scar is a lot less visible than it used to be.
Yep, that's your 3rd degree burn there. That's what happened to me with the iron. But it hurt like a mofo.
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My most painful burns are when I've stuck the tip of my finger in the flame when applying a stringer! I couldn't torch for a couple days!! I have the usual tiny round scars on my arms from popping glass too.
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Burns are a way of life. Two days ago I had a marble that was orange hot pop off the punty and hit my chest. Burned straight through my shirt and left some really neat dark brown burn marks on my chest. Not sure how hot it was, but hot enough that it deformed when it hit the floor.

I generally burn myself at least once a month. Sometimes worse than others, but that one was probably one of the worst I've had.
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My neck gets it the most, hot-ass curling iron!

Okay, I am updating this after several days. I had a shockey bead pop off the mandrel, I got up to scoop up a piece that had hit the floor, not knowing that there was also a chunk that had landed on the stool I was sitting on. When I sat back down, yeah!.....HELLO! Back of the thigh, not me butt!

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now now that what I would tell my dad when I came home with them little ol love bites on my neck......
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In nearly three years I haven't burnt myself seriously yet.

But I have...

Picked up a hot stringer
Had hot glass drop in my lap
popped a rod and had it hit me in the face
burned my fingernail and end of my thumb on the torch (not the flame)

None of these were more than 'ow that hurts' burns and not even left a scar.

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Is it me or does soft glass seem to burn you more than pyrex ?
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I don't think the glass type matters if you go sticking your hand in the torch flame. lol!

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I've only burned myself twice with the torch that caused slight scarring (both times by bumping the head of the torch OUCH). The woodstove and toaster oven are out to get me though!!

I picked up a hot stringer the other day d'oh but I keep a bottle of Trader Joe's Aloe Vera Gel on the bench and I swear the next day I had forgotten that I had a finger burn. That stuff is amazing for little burns like that, heals them immediately.
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Wow. Well, I do know to expect some burns, I just hope I don't experience those really bad ones. I've already been burned badly when I was a little girl. My mom asked me how hot the wood stove was. She meant is the needle pointing to the yellow, orange, or red, but me being an analitical one, I took things literal. I pulled a chair over next to the wood stove to read her the temperature and leaned in. I fell into the stove pipe and burned my entire hand. Mom reacted fast and slathered it in Vitamin E oil and it healed 100% with no scarring. I do remember that but don't remember pain.
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Is it me or does soft glass seem to burn you more than pyrex ?
I don't think Pyrex is as shocky as the higher coe's. Much more stable glass.
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Nothing interesting here (burning wise), only touched a hot mandrel or still hot rod at the wrong end but without a blister or some shocky glass that burned a hole in my sweater or pants.......... BUT.........

I managed to do something you won't believe, this happened about a year ago. Was torching and mandrel in left hand, rod in flame in right hand. I was about to put glass on the mandrel when all of a sudden my head started to itch, so what did smart me do?? Without having a clue i started to scratch my head and suddenly it smelled like something was burning, like really burning, i tried to get my "hand" out off my hair but it was stuck. Yeah right, i had to pull really hard and finally got the hot mandrel out off my hair ( ) , lots of hair sticking on the mandrel, yuk, i didn't know how fast i should put it in water and run to the kitchen (next to my studio) and put water on my head, dabbing with my hands, feeling with my hands where the big bold spot was, i already could see myself walking down the street being partially bold.... When i calmed down i walked into my studio to look at the mandrel again, that really looked gross and there still was the burning smell. I don't know how it is possible but i wasn't partially bold, i only lost some hair and my the skin on my head was only red (DH looked at it when he came home). Every time i tell the story i have to laugh so hard cause i think it's funny but also cause i'm so happy i didn't get burned really bad. So if your head is itching, be careful what you do
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A few, maybe three, first degree burns, completely idiotic on all accounts. One second degree burn, again COMPLETELY idiotic reason.
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wasnt this thread supposed to be about people NOT burning themselves?

i was hoping for tips since seems like i burn myself about every other torch session...
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Hey, it's me from the "other thread". Well I didn't burn myself bad for over 3 years! When I was younger, and in to riding horses, we used to say if you never fall, you never rode.
Then we'd say "get right back on and ride" after a fall.
So that's what I did yesterday, I cut the finger out of a leather glove to put over my bandage and torched for a bit. Amazing how much you really need your little finger.
Looks like the same slogan applies to lampworking, "If you never get burned, you never torched!" LOL
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I've been torching over four years and have just had very minors burns so far, knock on wood. I recently got a really bad one my upper arm from flying glass, but it's so tiny it just looks like a dark colored mole and only hurt at the time. The worst burn I have ever gotten is from tending our woodstove. not beadmaking.
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I voted having no burns because what burns I have gotten didn't fit into any other category description.
Most I've done is grab hot mandrels and had a bead jump off my marver onto my finger nail and a little bit of my cuticle. Turned my nail brown but my cuticle was fine.

I rarely have much shocky glass come flying my way and I've had some hit me but no burns so far. I'm pretty careful of how I work. I had an icky burn on my foot when I was a kid (stepped on a hot piece of charcoal from a bbq grill) I know how much it hurts so I'm trying to avoid it at all cost.
So far so good *knock on wood*
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My worst burn wasn't from glass. On christmas day when i was 1. We were all sitting around at the table for dinner and i reached over and tipped the hot gravy on myself and my mom. I was burned from head to toe the way my mom describes it. I still have scars to this day on my stomach 28 years later . Luckily i don't remember a thing cause i was so young.
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Yikes! I hope by posting my burn story here doesn't jinx myself into something worse! But here goes...I was using the tungsten rake and poking, pulling shaping etc. then decided I needed to use the other end of it...so the surface I used to flip the tool around was my boob! That burning hot tool went through my blouse, bra and into my boob. I was pinching fabric out of me (all the while worrying my bead was going to fall off the mandrel..LOL) and now there's a nice round scare on my right boob. I've also touched my hand on the torch a few times singeing a layer or two of skin off my hand. I do fear dropping a glob of glass in my lap though and I've heard that it's happened to others before. OUCH!
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Old 2008-07-16, 12:35pm
Kym Kym is offline
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No serious burns but some scary misses. A scorch here and scorch there but tiny and not really a problem. Now that I have written this though I have no doubt hoodoo'd myself!

Kym
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