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Old 2015-01-13, 11:14am
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Any Idea On How This Was Made? Im tring to recreate the Arkenstone from the movie The Hobbit. i feel like its jus dichroic glass in there but not shure how they got it all jagged and sharp like that. also does anyone have any tips on faceting? can it be done with a torch and sculpting? or do u need a special device. any thoughts shared would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Old 2015-01-13, 12:55pm
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I think this is way beyond my abilities however I would try DH shards as oppose to dichoric. Faceting would not be something you can do on a torch or with sculpting. For that you would need a flat lap machine
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Old 2015-01-13, 1:31pm
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what are DH shards? never herd that term before. and okay thanks!
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Old 2015-01-13, 1:55pm
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Their site says that those are not made from glass. I did not think that the interior looked like glass. I think dichroic glass would not give you that effect. It's more like a prism.

Here's the site I referenced: http://www.dreamspheres.co.uk/index.html
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Old 2015-01-13, 1:58pm
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It looks like a clear plastic ball to me with pieces of plastic with a coating on them possibly glues into place? Or maybe glued into place then the pieces put into a mold that is filled with clear resin?
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Old 2015-01-13, 2:03pm
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To do that in glass would require lots of shards melted in to chunks that were then lapped to get the edges and the corners sharp then melted and lapped yet again with even more shards and lapping.

Maybe lots of latticino (sp) ( wrong word even ) chunks broken up and re-melted and broken again adinfinitum?

ETA: It would really be a challenge to even try it and I would need to have a flat lapping capability as well.
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Old 2015-01-13, 2:35pm
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what about glass opals? it's boro, but wow
http://www.profoundglass.com/store/p...&idcategory=23
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Old 2015-01-13, 2:45pm
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yea i was also thinking opals as well, i wasent shure if it was glass or not, just wanted to make somthing similar to this, my brother is a huge lord of the rings fan. thanks for the tips guys
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Old 2015-01-13, 3:05pm
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I agree with Eileen... looks like lucite pieces coated with a refractive film, glued together and a ball built around it. Maybe fancy 3-D printing?
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Or maybe John Foster made it? Check out his website:

http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/...cocktail-table
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Old 2015-01-13, 3:15pm
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I thought it looks like mylar film coated with coating to give prism effect -long strip folded up ( remember gum wrapper bracelets?) and embedded in a resin ball. It's very cool and would be awesome in glass but sheesh.....I don't think I could do it - at least not on the first try hahahahaha - good thing I couldn't - OMG - I would have them plastered all over the place and be trying to figure out how to wear them LMAO

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Old 2015-01-13, 4:07pm
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Also check out work by Jack Storms. He has some YouTube videos showing his process
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Old 2015-01-15, 10:31pm
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BORO dichro does look like that if you got an inch of scrap dichro. Worked really cool and fast-ish you could get that effect. Yes. Basically the dichro would have to never hit the flame directly.
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Old 2015-01-16, 4:14am
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Boro in a furnace could get that effect too. In fact a furnace marble was my first thought.
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I found the same site bshelle posted, "The materials used and the various processes involved in creating Dreamspheres are a closely guarded secret.
The spheres are not made from glass as might be expected, but are many times stronger than glass.
They are made from a combination of materials that are unique to the Dreamsphere."

I say lucite, they're only like 50.00, I looked it up and he had a sale for 30.00, not sure he would do that with glass, it just looks like plastic too. I think glass would be even more dynamic.

I've seen cellophane fantasy film in these exact colors. Grab some sample sheets and throw them into a plastic globe If you want it to look closer to that I would adhere the film to plastic sheet, slice them up and add it that way.
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I need to hire his marketing writer, if I had copy like that my glass would fly out the door.
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Old 2015-01-18, 9:18am
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Now that you mention this, I do remember reading this. I had forgot all sbout this! Great digging

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I found the same site bshelle posted, "The materials used and the various processes involved in creating Dreamspheres are a closely guarded secret.
The spheres are not made from glass as might be expected, but are many times stronger than glass.
They are made from a combination of materials that are unique to the Dreamsphere."

I say lucite, they're only like 50.00, I looked it up and he had a sale for 30.00, not sure he would do that with glass, it just looks like plastic too. I think glass would be even more dynamic.

I've seen cellophane fantasy film in these exact colors. Grab some sample sheets and throw them into a plastic globe If you want it to look closer to that I would adhere the film to plastic sheet, slice them up and add it that way.
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I would try opal frit in a boro marble to approximate the ArkenStone look
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I need to hire his marketing writer, if I had copy like that my glass would fly out the door.
I dunno, the drama almost made my lunch fly out of my stomach--a bit much for me.
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To bad there is no tongue in cheek smiley, the psuedo science B.S. had me choking from the start. Not to belittle the art form, it is a beatiful creation and concept. That's why i'm into glass, I love what it does to light.
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Did you manage to make an arkenstone then? It's such an awesome idea! Excited to see lol!
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I need to hire his marketing writer, if I had copy like that my glass would fly out the door.
I know right?

Seriously, look up fantasy film, or angelina film (that usually brings up jolie movies lol) but that stuff looks just like the OP's link, very flashy.
http://www.artglitter.com/retail/fantasyfilm.htm

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I know right?

Seriously, look up fantasy film, or angelina film (that usually brings up jolie movies lol) but that stuff looks just like the OP's link, very flashy.
http://www.artglitter.com/retail/fantasyfilm.htm
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